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Dubravka
Djuric
Letters from Belgrade
I have assembled here the email letters sent to me by Dubravka
Djuric during the NATO war against Yugoslavia. Editorial interventions
have been kept to the minimum and I have generally not corrected
the grammar, letting Djurics words come across as they did
in her letters. Djuric has approved the final text. My own reaction
to these letters is best expressed in a talk piece I did at the
Whitney Museum of American Art at Philip Morris on April 8, which
was entitled, Talk to Me: Dialogue in/and/as/or Improvisation.
A RealVideo presentation of this performance is at the EPC (http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/bernstein).
Both Dubravka Djuric and her husband Misko Suvakovic contributed
to the issue of boundary 2 that I edited, 99 Poets/1999: An International
Poetics Symposium. I visited them in Belgrade in a trip I made
there in the spring of 1991. And they were both Poetics Program
Fellows at the University at Buffalo in the spring of 1994. Charles
Bernstein, August 1999
Wed,
24 Mar 1999
dear
charles,
i
want to thank you and susan for being in touch with us for all these
years. sorry if my e-mail messages were strange or bitter
sometimes, but in this circumstances you could only isolate yourself
from everyday reality, in the extent it is possible. i fight to
be in touch with some of you, reading, writing and translating your
texts and poetry, trying to save my mind.
i will write again in some point.
love,
dubravka
Thu,
25 Mar 1999
dear
charles,
yes,
e-mail still works, hope it will remain that way. and phones, also.
this is a report on my yesterday morning. i went to downtown. much
less people in the street than usual. nobody speaks. i could feel
fear in the air. it was like a damned town. friends call from time
to time. speak about getting food for more days, some worry about
children who are hiding from the army, or who would like to escape,
because it is not easy to be stranger in another country. total
panic. i went to nuns (independent journalist association, where
ProFemina is), met the friend who said vernan matic, editor-in-chief,
b 92 is arrested. then went to super market in the downtown, crowded
with people. i start buying. no one said anything, but you could
feel and see on faces fear.
tonight
we heard detonation, that was very close. sirens. watch tv, listen
to radio. b 92 doesnt work (usually most information is heard
there). before 9 they spoke about aggression to yugoslavia.
about 10 past 11 went to bed. in night heard 3 times sirens.
who
knows how it will end. i just woke up. and will go to hear news,
then probably to downtown.
thanks
for care and love,
it
will be interesting how things will evolve inside . . .
dubravka
and misko
Thu, 25 Mar 1999
before
going to bed. whole town is in darkness, we hear detonation around.
hope everything be ok in the end.
thanks for your care.
love,
dubravaka and misko
Sat, 27 Mar 1999
dear
charles,
this
is a chronology of the events for all friends that email us. if
you find it interesting, put it on [the Poetics] list, but please,
dont forward to me negative reactions.
love
dubravka
monday: i was in the center of the city seeing some friends. people
already start talking about bombing. i heard comment we will
be occupied as macedonia, bosnia and croatia. didnt
comment on it. i stop commenting because it doesnt have any
sense. we all think what we want to think.
thursday:
all day spent in front of tv, reading newspapers and was nervous
and paralyzed.
tuesday:
decided do go to visit some friends who work at newspapers and to
give them new issue of profemina magazine that appeared few days
earlier. on my way to the center first impression was that town
had very few people on streets, which is unusual. belgrade is full
of people especially because so many refugees have become its citizens,
you could hardly walk through streets full of people and crowded
with cars. my friends kept talking about bombing, about buying enough
food. again on streets, i could feel fear in the air. belgrade was
city of ghosts. went to NUNS (office of independent journalist association,
also Pro Femina is there) met friend who told me about veran matic
(b 92 is publisher of ProFemina). all around I could feel fear.
in the evening sirens. we could hear a few detonations. spent some
time behind tv, but not much information till 21 hours, then some
confused things. during the night sirens, but we continued to sleep.
thursday:
went to downtown. few people on the street. went to buy food twice.
supermarket was full of people who buy food and didnt comment
anything. you could feel fear on their faces. at night we were in
darkness. few detonations near my husbands and my place. then
we went to bed.
friday:
went to downtown. more people on streets, more cars. the atmosphere
calmed. people walked. went to NUNS to pick up some books. met friends
who spoke about what might happen. at quarter past 4 heard sirens.
jumped into the bus. look to the people on the street who just continued
to walk normally, back home. all afternoon was on line with misko
replying to friends from slovenia, croatia, usa that we are ok.
friends from belgrade and novi sad called and we called them. words
of courage, and deep worrying. people are scared how long this could
last, what could happen. the experience is that all our lives are
in danger. and i think about people, many of them our friends and
close relatives, in croatia and bosnia during the war . . . forwarded
a message from friends written by belgrade feminist peace activist
lepa mladjenovic. went to bed around 22. i couldnt sleep,
and suddenly detonations. we all went downstairs, whole city was
in darkness. heard detonations for about 20 minutes, somewhere relatively
near us. scared. spent few minutes outside in yard. but didnt
see anything. around 4 in the morning another siren, one detonation.
continued to sleep.
thanks
all friends who are continually in contact by e mail with us!
Wed, 31 Mar 1999
three
days of music in the downtown, against nato. very strange atmosphere.
i will try to write more for the list. my e mail is via b 92, and
it seems people are encouraged to communicate by email, so in the
evening and in night couldnt get connection.
it
seems they will go to the end . . .
love,
dubravka
Wed, 31 Mar 1999
This
was written more than a half a year ago, but never emailed
WOMEN,
WAR, POETRY, POSTCOMMUNISM
Being for a while silent reader of the list, I am encouraged to
sound myself with some information, that could be at least interesting
to all of you
From the beginning of the war in former yugoslavia, the activities
of different feminist groups in the sphere of politics and culture
in belgrade is noticeable. that which connects these groups was
and still is antiwar activities. From the protests of the women
in black, known worldwide, who from the very beginning protested
against the war on the belgrade streets; to the center for women,
which worked with victims of violence and war; to the belgrade center
for womens study, which organized a parallel teaching system
based on different feminist theories, and whose lecturers also protested
against war, teaching about former yugoslav women writers, teaching
tolerance, praising multiethnicity, etc. Feminist groups from the
former yugoslavia never broke their connections and met whenever
it was possible in different parts of the former country.
The only [feminist] magazine which was not the product of feminist
groups is ProFemina, published by independent radio B92. ProFemina
maintains a strong connection with feminist groups while also having
an impact on mainstream literary culture. The politics of the magazine
have always been against the dominant literary trend, which was
and still is dominated by nationalism and mythology. From the end
of 1994 till today ProFemina published authors from different parts
of former Yugoslavia (Slovenia, Croatia, Macedonia, and Bosnia and
Herecegovina), and published some critical text about some mainstream
and prize-winning authors such as Svetlana Velmar Jankovic and Milorad
Pavic, mostly by Svetlana Slapsak, editor-in-chief.
Metaphorically, it is a kind of joke played by destiny
that some parts of an open communist state such was yugoslavia became
closed societies, at the time when most closed communist societies
became open, or are in the process that leads towards an open society.
If I consider poetry scene in Serbia, I could say that from the
mid-eighties with the wave of retrograde postmodernism, the dominant
poetic model was the one that returns to the traditional forms,
and important, universal themes. It is interesting
that the most critical, socially engaged poetry is written by women,
except a few male poets. And speaking about the form of the poetry,
most women of my generation (born around 1960) write urban poetry,
that is not infected by dominant models of the culture.
(Some people describe the war in former yugoslavia as war between
the urban and rural population.)
some
recent thoughts:
For 4 days in the center of belgrade there are concerts against
nato bombing. Homogenization of the society is total, it could be
said [that this is] almost [the] ideal situation. the process started
12 years ago, and it seems that its culmination for us in serbia
is right now. The crisis in former yugoslavia started about 10 years
ago in kosovo. i wonder if it ended there?
many
people try to leave the country.
Thu, 1 Apr 1999
charles,
yesterday i send a message to the list, but i think it is not
anymore wise if it appeared there. is it possible to stop it?
[Djurics
March 31 posting was sent out to the list.]
Thu, 1 Apr 1999
maybe
you heard, the bridge in front of novi sad is bombed . . . it is
all
crazy and horrible.
Fri, 2 Apr 1999
dear
charles, in question is quiet big inside pressure, control, and
censorship, as well as court in war condition . . .
Mon, 5 Apr 1999 [automated reply]
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Mon, 5 Apr 1999
dear
charles, hope you got my last 3 messages, from an old e-mail account.
ProFemina doesnt have publisher anymore. hope something will
be resolved when all this horror stops. we are good, but sick of
the situation. some days go to downtown, now when there are concerts
against nato bombs, there are so much people in the area.
we
are, on the other hand, used to the situation. i cannot do anything,
watch tv, and listen to the radio, but information goes in and out
of my earsjust to make time pass more quickly. in the nights
we hear detonations (last night heard them 4 times, but just comment,
something like to hell, and continued to sleep).
today
i got two roof books, perelmans and robinsonstravelled
from february. they are so nice!
i will see how the situation will evolve, and in some moment will
ask you to put me again as a listmember.
love
to you, susan, emma, and felix
dubravka and misko
Wed, 7 Apr 1999
dear
charles, i got your message, but when i opened it, there was nothing
inside. some error, i suppose. could you send it again.
we
wait for the end of all this. hope it will be soon.
Fri, 9 Apr 1999
dear
charles, nothing again in your email massage.
the
situation here seems worst. too long-lasting, and horribly uncertain
when and how it will end.
but
there is some good news. miskos new book appeared in novi
sad, and after 10 days it reached him. beautiful book,dictionary
of modern and postmodern art and theory after 1950. you could
never tell it appeared in these circumstances.
in
the evening we wait for sirens, it seems strange when
there are no sirens. then turn off the lights, watch tv a little,
then go to listen to the different radio programs and enter email.
write letters and read letters. then go to sleep with question when
some explosion will be heard, strange when it doesnt happen.
then in the morning around 7 or 8, the sirens that signal the end
of danger, we wake up. this becomes normal condition.
there
is so much information, that everything seems confused, and there
is fear how and when this horrible situation will end.
last
three days could only translate for couple of hours, which is good
in this circumstances.
hope
to receive your message and that mine will reach you
Tue, 13 Apr 1999
charles,
misko
managed to read your last message. and the other also.
how
was your performance the other day? thanks for mentioning us.
here,
things, as you know, go to the very extreme. things happen in the
air, and in the ground.
last
night was one of the worst, at least in this part of belgrade. heard
two times very strong detonations, and the other one was with strong
explosion, and later felt smoke in the air.
our
perception is totally changed. every sound seems as worrying as
sirens or bombs. half of the night we were awake. when you lay in
bed, waiting for when the bombing will start, then jump, and go
downstairs, watch tv, or listen to the radio for some information.
then again go to bed. every sound seems like bomb, or it seems that
windows and doors are like trembling, and sometimes you dont
know is it for real or in your imagination.
most
people are distressed, cant work or do anything. just walk
around and talk. i dont move so much, dont have need
to talk to people, we are all in our neuroses, and many people means
collective neuroses. i force myself to do something, otherwise will
go crazy. misko also works on his slovenian book.
the
weather is most of the time beautiful, with many flowers and fruit
trees in blossom.
it
is a very strange situation. it seems everything is normal during
the day. the streets are crowded with people, and there is some
strange vividness, and on the other hand the life is paralyzed.
in last few days many friends said if someone told me 10 years
ago that this would happen, that we will sit and wait for bombs,
i would tell him/her s/he is crazy. and you sit and wait for
what will happen.
novi
sad is in a very bad situation; but friends, poets [in Novi Sad]
are good.
when
all this stops, everything will be different. and what about poetry.
nothing about it. poetry doesnt matter here for some time
already. at least not contemporary poetry, not to mention
experimental poetry.
love,
dubravka
Tue, 13 Apr 1999
>Slavko
Curuvija, owner of the Yugoslav opposition newspaper
>Dnevni Telegraf, was shot to death on Sunday. Witnesses reported
>that Curuvija and his wife were entering their apartment building
in
>Belgrade when two unidentified gunmen came up behind them.
>Curuvija was shot several times in the head and back, while
his
>wife was pistol whipped. The Dnevni Telegraf has been in trouble
>with the government of Yugoslavia several times for reporting
>against the views of President Slobodan Milosevic.
Sun, 18 Apr 1999
thanks
for dedicating your performance to us. i like the verse you transformed!
and
this is for you and james [sherry]. i used some poster that I saw
in town:
they
believe in bombs
we believe in god
so
you have bombs and i will continue to bomb you with
my poems, hope you wouldnt mind.
love,
dubravka
Sun, 25 Apr 1999
charles,
i also dont know what to write. every day is the same, this
33 days seems as one big day, day and night are fused together.
most of the time we are at home (as if home-prisoners),
working, hearing news, waiting the night, asking what will be bombed
next. the other night when big tv [transmitter] was bombed, it was
really horrible. for a couple of hours we heard detonations from
different directions, some seem very close . . . last night were
with dijana milosevic and artist nesa paripovic. she is in a bad
mood, her theater has been taken apart. from this point, it seems
that many things that started in the last 5 or 9 years have disappeared
. . .
wasting of time, wasting of lives, wasting of energy, wasting of
material goods.
the
other night went to visit some friends in one part of the downtown,
and about 20 minutes before hearing sirens we decided to return.
we went along the long street, there were no buses, few cars, then
turned to little streets, and this was strange, some parts with
nobody on the streets, some streets with people in front of the
buildings where they lived. then came the park in front of national
library, which was full with people and their dogs . . .
what
life will be there?
if we dont come to the end, there will be nothing there
if we dont come to the end there will be nothing there
if we come to the end there could be something there
if we come to the end there could be something there
if we come to the end maybe there will be some hope there
anyway,
when you talk to the people, you can feel confusion, sometimes quite
opposite opinions coexisting.
all
this is big confusion in peoples head . . .
it
is not easy to understand what and why all this . . .
you
just continue to live normal life.
anyway, the experience of this century: you just sit and wait for
what will happen, helpless . . .
love
dubravka
Wed, 28 Apr 1999
dear
james, dear charles,
it
is around 10 in morning. we slept till half past 8. were awake till
half past 11 last night. usually we listen to radio free europe
or some other local or foreign radio station, in order not to miss
some information, but it seems that there is no more important information.
but it becomes habit. also try to enter email but didnt succeed.
around 1 oclock a stronger detonation woke us. we jumped out
of bed as if someone poured hot water on us. the whole house was
shaken, windows trembled. the explosion came very near the trolley
station, part of the city called dedinje, if you remember, where
we went down from the downtown, at the top of the hill. the electricity
disappeared. my first thought wasi will not be able to be
in touch with my friends via email. but after 20 minutes it came
back . . . which was a relief . . .
fortunately
we are at the bottom of the hill. then thunder was heard, and we
didnt know whether it was bomb, but then it started raining
with thunder. we were awake an hour more and then went to bed again.
it
was really exciting!
love,
dubravka
Fri, 30 Apr 1999
dear
friends, just a brief note. thanks for writing, and it is important
to be in touch with you all this time . . .
later
i will try to write for the list a short report, but now i just
want to tell you that last night was the worst of all others. we
heard the detonations from 22 hours on, most of the night we walk
around the house, open windows trying to hear something, and we
could hear planes, anti-aircraft artillery, explosions, and at the
end, before 6 in the morning we were awakened by the earthquake.
could you imagine this!
misko
went to the faculty [university], this week most of the faculties
started some kind of consultations with small groups of students,
and i am just about to go to downtown.
love,
dubravka
p.s.
charles, miskos brother wrote, two issues of boundary 2 reach
him [in LA], it would be interesting to see if it will reach us.
the post from slovenia still comes . . .
Wed, 5 May 1999
dear
charles, it was good that boundary 2 wasnt send here, yesterday
i heard from an american who live here, she is translator and lecturer
at dept. of english, that mail from usa doesnt work any more
. . .
i
didnt write for some time at all, because from time to time
felt psychically exhausted. we had few days relatively peaceful,
and that means we could sleep relatively well . . . but the other
day when electricity disappeared, it was horrible, all fears that
could come at ones mind came. whole city in darkness, you
dont know what happened, and what might happen . . . looking
through the window you could just see from time to time some cars
passing by hurrying, in fear. yesterday and today from time to time
we didnt have electricity. most of the parts of the town were
out of electricity and of water. we are near hospitals, and are
in a better position. but the night electricity disappeared, the
first reaction was to go and fill bottles with water in the case
that there was no water.
we
will try to put ProFemina on internet . . .
i will write again . . .
Sat, 8 May 1999
dear
charles,
just a short note.
we
have the same problem with miskos brother messages as with
your empty messages . . . the problem is, i dont know why,
when you write as reply to the author it is empty. when you write
a new message, it is readable.
we
are good. last night was also bad, the worst is with electricity,
because the next day couldnt enter email.
anyway,
i will write whenever i can . . . just to be in touch.
love,
dubravka

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